12.22.2005

Let's Make A Deal

Last night Monnie and I were watching Deal or No Deal. I had planned on blogging to you guys about how the game works - it's a combination of math and luck (who wouldn't like that?) and I recommend checking it out, but when I went to look up a bit more info on the game, I came across a problem that's always been one of my favorites - how big of a math nerd are you when you can call a problem "one of your favorites"?

It's commonly referred to as "The Monty Hall Paradox". If you ever watched "Let's Make a Deal" you're familiar with corny gameshows... another thing you're familiar with though is a game played on the show. You get called up to the front to play and are presented with three doors. Behind one of the three doors is a fabulous prize. Opening either of the other two doors reveals a goat. I'm not sure if you actually get to keep the goat - but the idea is that you lose.

Anyway, you select one of the three doors. Instead of opening your selected door, the host opens one of the other doors - behind which is always a goat. He then asks you: Would you like to stick with your original door? Or would you like to switch to the other door that we haven't shown?

The question is:
Do the odds say that you should stick with your original door?
Do they say that you should switch?
Or do the odds say that it's all on you and there's no difference?

The answer that most people come to initially is: it doesn't matter. There are 2 doors left. 1 has a goat and 1 has a prize: you have a 50/50 chance and switching is irrelevant. If that was your answer, you were... WRONG!

The odds say that by switching doors: your odds of getting the prize double!

The most brief explanation possible is that there are three possible outcomes when you switch and 2/3 cause you to win:
* You pick the prize right away - switching makes you LOSE.
* You pick goat 1 right away - switching makes you WIN.
* You pick goat 2 right away - switching makes you WIN.

If you don't switch, there are three outcomes. Only 1/3 make you win:
* You pick the prize right away - staying makes you WIN.
* You pick goat 1 right away - switching makes you LOSE.
* You pick goat 2 right away - switching makes you LOSE.

If I tried to explain it further I would basically be copy/pasting from here, so just check there for the details and reasoning. It takes a while to get your brain around it, even after thinking about it for a while. but that site explains it in several ways, so eventually it'll have you convinced! ... and even if you read all their logic and still don't agree: they have results from a computer simulation that demonstrates it also!

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

What I wanna know is if I get to keep the goat.

jimhalberg said...

Good point: In reality, you should never switch.

That would increase your chances of getting a goat and minimize your risk of only winning a car.

Sheila said...

My mom was telling me about this show. I missed it, but it sounds like something new that would be fun to watch. But it would be even better if there was a goat involved somehow.

Leslie Fedorchuk said...

Jim - You may not bring any of your goats to dinner next week - Monica, I am counting on you to see that this doesn't happen. I'm just not sure where we would put them.....

Anonymous said...

After reading "The Curious Incident", I found this comment on a site: Contributed by Peter Grave

"A whole chapter is devoted to The Monty Hall Problem. Towards the end of this chapter, Christopher remarks that "logic can help you work out the right answer." Rather ironically (though the irony will probably be unnoticed by the vast majority of readers), Christopher's answer is wrong, because he assumes (an unstated assumption - very sloppy for someone who aspires to be a mathematician!) that all six theoretically possible outcomes are equally likely. Once you accept that this is not necessarily so, all the mathematical reasoning becomes completely worthless: it all hinges on whether you think the game show host (presumably Monty Hall himself?) is trying to help you or prevent you from winning the car. If the former, then you should definitely switch (if he's wholeheartedly trying to help, he won't offer the possibility of switching if you've already made the right choice); if the latter then you definitely shouldn't. And the only way to determine whether the host is being helpful or not is by using all the things that Christopher is unable to cope with - nuances of voice, body language, and a basic understanding of game show economics and the motivation of game show hosts."

I think if you want to save the goats from Monty's storage room of prizes, it is even more important to read his evil intentions.

michael said...

How much for a goat? I'll take two.

Gina said...

I LOVED this show! It is confusing to explain to someone though. You did a good job.

Anonymous said...

I'll take the goat if it likes peanut butter.